Fikk svar på spørsmål om Innsug til 328i!

[stian328i]

For dere som lurer på innsug og større spjeldhus til 328i.Sente en mail til linken på E36coupe.com og fikk dette til svar!

I can send a kit to you in Norway, but I will need a £100 deposit on your old

items, which I will refund on return of the parts.

Here are the details:

The Bbtb/manifold conversion is designed to remove the restrictions that BMW

deliberately built into the M52 2.8 engine. They did this to restrict

the power

to 193 bhp (the same bhp as the old 2.5 unit). The reason for the

restriction is

the German insurance market, which penalises cars which have more than

194 bhp.

However, the 2.8 has a much better torque figure than the 2.5 unit. It

will fit

all E36 328s and all E39 528s up until 1998 model. It will also fit he

323 /523

models with similar gains in bhp.

The kit takes about 4 or 5 hours to fit. The only downside after

installation is

the fuel rail cover cut outs don’t quite match the manifold, though it

is barely

noticeable. Also a small piece of one of the fuel rail bracket needs trimming

off. Everything is reversible, should you ever wish to resort back to the

original.

Power gains with a free flow filter are in the region of 20 -25bhp, typically

giving around 218bhp on a 328 and around 193bhp on a 323.. Tests have shown

that this manifold will flow 275 cfm of air as opposed to the standard 185cfm!

Schrick make a free flow manifold, which costs £900 without the body! The

Schrick unit flows 250cfm.

The manifold itself is an extensively re worked second hand M50 manifold. The

modified manifold has a new custom made chamber, screwed and bonded into the

underside, which houses the idle valve, air sensor, and oil

recirculation valve

in exactly the same position as the original M52 manifold. The manifold comes

complete with the previously used seals that came with it. Though you might

prefer to buy new ones. I can supply new seals at £25 for a set of six. There

are also two new special fittings, which accept the standard M52 stabiliser

brackets and idle valve cage.

Also in the kit is a big bore throttle body and if you have 'ASC', a big bore

traction control body. These are sold on an exchange basis, where you return

your old body or bodies once the kit is fitted. I will also need the plastic

chamber from your old manifold that houses the idle valve etc. The manifold

comes with a slightly reworked one already fitted.

E39 5 series models require a Pas reservoir relocation bracket at £15. I can

supply a brand new manifold instead of a second hand one at an extra £210. You

can retain all your old parts for an extra £115.

This conversion has to be easily the best power per pound that you can buy for

the M52 328/323 engine. The engine revs all the way to the redline without any

hesitation at all. Whereas the standard engine struggles from 4,500 revs.

The cost is £325 without traction control or £375 with traction control. + £20

postage. I can fit the kit for £100 (In Essex)

I can supply the throttle body on its own which can be fitted prior to

the full

manifold conversion. This will cost £120 for non traction or £170 with

traction

control. These are exchange prices, so I will need your old ones back after

fitting. The manifold can be added later.

In Summary

Bbtb/manifold kit £325 with exchange throttle body.

Bbtb/manifold kit with ASC (Traction Control) £375 with exchange

throttle body.

With both of the above options, I will need your old throttle body and plastic

icv chamber/seal returning to me after fitting. If you have ASC, I will also

need the ASC unit.

Pas relocation bracket for E39 5 series £15 (Not required for E36 323/328)

If you prefer to keep your old parts, please add £50 for the throttle

body, £50

for the ASC unit, and £15 for the icv cover.

The manifolds are second hand. If you prefer a brand new manifold, then please

add £210 to the overall price.

New manifold to head seals are £25 per set of 6.

Fitting is £100

Postage is £20

You can phone me on 01245 442851 or 07968 391056.

email alpina527@aol.com

Thanks, Ian

[GromBil.com]

For dere som lurer på innsug og større spjeldhus til 328i.Sente en mail til linken på E36coupe.com og fikk dette til svar!

I can send a kit to you in Norway, but I will need a £100 deposit on your old

items, which I will refund on return of the parts.

Here are the details:

The Bbtb/manifold conversion is designed to remove the restrictions that BMW

deliberately built into the M52 2.8 engine. They did this to restrict

the power

to 193 bhp (the same bhp as the old 2.5 unit). The reason for the

restriction is

the German insurance market, which penalises cars which have more than

194 bhp.

However, the 2.8 has a much better torque figure than the 2.5 unit. It

will fit

all E36 328s and all E39 528s up until 1998 model. It will also fit he

323 /523

models with similar gains in bhp.

The kit takes about 4 or 5 hours to fit. The only downside after

installation is

the fuel rail cover cut outs don’t quite match the manifold, though it

is barely

noticeable. Also a small piece of one of the fuel rail bracket needs trimming

off. Everything is reversible, should you ever wish to resort back to the

original.

Power gains with a free flow filter are in the region of 20 -25bhp, typically

giving around 218bhp on a 328 and around 193bhp on a 323.. Tests have shown

that this manifold will flow 275 cfm of air as opposed to the standard 185cfm!

Schrick make a free flow manifold, which costs £900 without the body! The

Schrick unit flows 250cfm.

The manifold itself is an extensively re worked second hand M50 manifold. The

modified manifold has a new custom made chamber, screwed and bonded into the

underside, which houses the idle valve, air sensor, and oil

recirculation valve

in exactly the same position as the original M52 manifold. The manifold comes

complete with the previously used seals that came with it. Though you might

prefer to buy new ones. I can supply new seals at £25 for a set of six. There

are also two new special fittings, which accept the standard M52 stabiliser

brackets and idle valve cage.

Also in the kit is a big bore throttle body and if you have 'ASC', a big bore

traction control body. These are sold on an exchange basis, where you return

your old body or bodies once the kit is fitted. I will also need the plastic

chamber from your old manifold that houses the idle valve etc. The manifold

comes with a slightly reworked one already fitted.

E39 5 series models require a Pas reservoir relocation bracket at £15. I can

supply a brand new manifold instead of a second hand one at an extra £210. You

can retain all your old parts for an extra £115.

This conversion has to be easily the best power per pound that you can buy for

the M52 328/323 engine. The engine revs all the way to the redline without any

hesitation at all. Whereas the standard engine struggles from 4,500 revs.

The cost is £325 without traction control or £375 with traction control. + £20

postage. I can fit the kit for £100 (In Essex)

I can supply the throttle body on its own which can be fitted prior to

the full

manifold conversion. This will cost £120 for non traction or £170 with

traction

control. These are exchange prices, so I will need your old ones back after

fitting. The manifold can be added later.

In Summary

Bbtb/manifold kit £325 with exchange throttle body.

Bbtb/manifold kit with ASC (Traction Control) £375 with exchange

throttle body.

With both of the above options, I will need your old throttle body and plastic

icv chamber/seal returning to me after fitting. If you have ASC, I will also

need the ASC unit.

Pas relocation bracket for E39 5 series £15 (Not required for E36 323/328)

If you prefer to keep your old parts, please add £50 for the throttle

body, £50

for the ASC unit, and £15 for the icv cover.

The manifolds are second hand. If you prefer a brand new manifold, then please

add £210 to the overall price.

New manifold to head seals are £25 per set of 6.

Fitting is £100

Postage is £20

You can phone me on 01245 442851 or 07968 391056.

email alpina527@aol.com

Thanks, Ian

Interesangt...

Er dette orginale BMW deler som er modifisert, eller bare helt orginale deler? Jeg holder på med å dokumentere effektøkningen disse oppgraderingene kan gi og er veldig interesert i info som kan øke effekten man får igjen... Større spjeldhus? Hvilke bmw tas dette fra?

Har en M50B25 innsugsmanifoil liggende som skal monteres... Spørsmålet er om den bare skal monteres "as is" eller om den bør modifiseres noe før montering...

[stian328i]

Dette er jeg ikke sikker på men det er mulig de kan vere modifisert siden det ble skrevet at han kunne ta de gamle delene jeg tar av i inbytte for reduksjon i pris.

Har hørt at en mulig må ha en adapter på innsug vist du har M50B25 manifold.det som er sikkert er at dette er noe jeg skal prøve...

[GromBil.com]

Ja dette var absolutt interesangt. Har allerede kjøpt inn en M50B25 innsugsmanifoil, men jeg skjønte ikke helt det med spjeldhuset?

Dette må jo være en oppgradering som gir godt med effekt for pengene? Jeg betalte 1600kr +moms for manifoilen til bilen. Venter på et pipercross luftfilter nå så er jeg i gang

[GromBil.com]

Fant info om spjeldhuset... De har "borret opp" det orginale huset slik at den tar inn enda mer luft. Sjekk ut http://www.e36coupe.com/technical/Fitting_A_New_Throttle_Body.pdf

Kunne man kansje fått denne borret opp selv en plass?

[stian328i]

Det er mulig men da må man vel få tak i nytt og større spjeld?

[Gunnar]

Ser ut som identiske spjeldhus for meg, bare at det ene er slipt opp innvendig og har fått nytt (større) spjeld. Kommer sikkert langt på vei med en Dremel, om man er ute etter billigste måte. Men det er klart, veggen er jo meget tynn etter bearbeiding, så det er nok fare for å gå gjennom.. og det er jo kjedelig.

[stian328i]

Sjekk linken for grombil.com har funnet! den må jo vere god for Gjør det selv spalten selv om den står på engelsk

[stian329]

Hmmm, de kunne gjort mer med spjeldhuset. Fått enda mer knifeedge, slipt ned mer på akslingen og satt i forsenka skruer slik som på dette

[GromBil.com]

@Stian329: Er dette ditt spjeldhus? En ide må vel være å kjøpe et slikt verktøy som man honer sylindre med? Ikke sikkert den moden har så mye å si.... Blir vel mer flisespikkeri en effekt av å "åpne" spjeldhuset mer?

[stian329]

@Roy: Det er spjeldet jeg hadde på min forrige M20 turbo. "Turbokongen" (Johannes) fra T4E som har porta det. Tror ikke det er så god idé å bruke honeverktøy på den jobben. Og du har vel fått med deg hva Erik sier om flow mtp effekt, respons osv : )