Hawkon88 Skrevet November 15, 2012 Skrevet November 15, 2012 Lenkearmer framme kan være en svakhet. De er sikkert ekstra utsatt hvis bilen går på runflat/lavprofil. Begge ae pærene mine har sluttet å funke ved henholdsvis ca 89 og 105000km. Sportsetene mine begynner å få slitasjeskade pga inn og utstigning av bilen. På samme plass som "standard e30". Antydning til rustdannelse på bærearber bak. Jeg har kjørt min fra 82300, og bikket 108000 i går. Bortsett fra et litt annerledes utseende, og en mer brukervennlig iDrive, ser ikke jeg fler fordeler med LCI. Absolutt en super bil! forskjellene på effekt skyldes vel (synsing fra min side) programmeringen. 163/177 er hvertfall identiske. Du kan jo kanskje lese litt i "den store e9x tråden" her inne også..
Bimmer-1 Skrevet November 23, 2012 Forfatter Skrevet November 23, 2012 Da har jeg satt meg litt ned og prøvd å finne ut litt på nettet og det ser ut til at det faktisk er store "skjulte" problemer med N47 motoren dessverre. Det står på utallige internasjonale forumer at det er problemer med registerkjedet til N47 motoren. Alle modeller er betruffet fra 2007-2011I verste fall må en bytte kamaksling og kjede + litt til og det blir jævlig dyrt siden kjedet sitter innerst mot kupe og motoren må ut. Noe mer vet jeg ikke per nå og jeg skal snakke med BMW ila dagen. Utdrag fra en av sakene til BMW Puma feildatabasen: PUMA 13588845-03 incidence recorded by BMW and its repair Diligence-number Item 43863106-03 N47, N47S, N47T, rustling sound in the engine, timing chain rubs. Approval date (day.month.year) Status Organization Approved 14.12.11 Germany, automobiles Vehicles affected E Series Motor Body E60 E61 E81 E82 E83 N47 N47DKO N47S N47T E61 E60 E81 E82 E83 N47 N47S N47T N47DKO E84 E87 E88 E90 E91 E87 E84 E88 E90 E91 E92 E93 F10 F11 F25 E93 E92 F10 F11 F25 Feedback Comment production interval Feedback (From / to) on the production interval diligence (day.month.year) to (day.month.year) / 01.03.11 / 01.03.11 Complaint Sound of friction drag on the engine from about 1500 rpm, which is visible from the inside. The noise can be perceived in area of the gearbox housing and the oil pan. Cause Excessively sharp edges on the sprockets, the chain does not flow evenly over the guides. Measures We must distinguish two cases: Case 1: For engines N47, N47DKO, N47S, interval from 01.03.2007 to production 05.01.2009. In case of customer complaint must change the following parts: (See Annexes, Figures 1 to 7.) - Nov. 21 7803479 Sutitución the crankshaft bearings. Caution: Use only crankshafts with a production date back to 5. 1. 1. 2009 2009 The production date is printed on crankshaft sprocket (see page 2 of the Annex) Meaning of the figures: The first two indicate the assembly line. The 6 following year (two digits), month, day. Last 5 indicate the reference number of the crankshaft. Thus, the crankshaft shown on page 2 of the annex was built on October 21, 2009. 41 -11 7,797,896 chain oil pump. 11 31 8 506 652 Timing Chain bottom. 13 52 7 797 906 sprocket for driving the high pressure pump. 11 27 7 800 523 sprocket (intermediate for balance shafts). 11 8,510,014 31 Supply Chain superior. -11 7,797,899 31 Timing Chain Guide above. -13 7,797,904 52 Timing Chain Guide below. Note: Adjusting the intermediate gear shafts accurately balanced according to workshop manual. In case this intermediate sprocket and the balance shafts are not sufficiently fit, the motor can still giving rise to noise despite the new crankshaft. See November 21 workshop manual 500 "crankshaft replacement." Note: In the case of vehicles to which a previous repair and they replaced the crankshaft: Proceed with these vehicles as detailed in "Case 2". Case 2: N47 engine, N47DKO, N47S, N47T production interval 05.01.2009 - 01.03.2011 In case of customer complaint replace the following parts: (See Appendix, Art 8 to 10) -11 8,506,652 31 Supply Chain bottom. - 13 52 7 797 906 sprocket high pressure pump. - 11 31 8 510 014 Supply Chain superior. -11 7,797,899 31 Timing Chain Guide above. -13 7,797,904 52 Timing Chain Guide below. Note: There is no need to release the binding thread of the intermediate toothed wheel balancer shafts. Note: As of March 2011 there are new guidelines. These guidelines do not bring reinforcing ribs. (See Appendix, pp. 7 and 10.) In this way the inner surface of the guides is smooth throughout its length and the timing chain runs easily on them. They have not changed the references. Note: During the repair make sure guides are mounted without lateral veins (in the Annex, Art 7 and 10.) Attention: No repairs are allowed in vehicles with production date after 03/2011 and vehicles in which all existing measures have already been made. The sound now is the moment, the normal state of this world! No risk of broken chain! Not allowed engine change because of this claim! Claim Location of the defect: Defect Type: Circumstances of default: Guide part incorrect Crank Noise Wheel motor Distribution Worn crankshaft Wheel motor Distribution Motor Noise Motor Power Du har gjort litt researcch, takk for god hjelp, har ikke bestemt meg ennå er ikke noe hast ennå, men N47 er det diesel eller bensin?
Bimmer-1 Skrevet November 23, 2012 Forfatter Skrevet November 23, 2012 Lenkearmer framme kan være en svakhet. De er sikkert ekstra utsatt hvis bilen går på runflat/lavprofil. Begge ae pærene mine har sluttet å funke ved henholdsvis ca 89 og 105000km.Sportsetene mine begynner å få slitasjeskade pga inn og utstigning av bilen. På samme plass som "standard e30". Antydning til rustdannelse på bærearber bak. Jeg har kjørt min fra 82300, og bikket 108000 i går. Bortsett fra et litt annerledes utseende, og en mer brukervennlig iDrive, ser ikke jeg fler fordeler med LCI. Absolutt en super bil! forskjellene på effekt skyldes vel (synsing fra min side) programmeringen. 163/177 er hvertfall identiske. Du kan jo kanskje lese litt i "den store e9x tråden" her inne også.. Tenkte meg det med lenkearmer, men det regner jeg som en slitasjedel da det er en utsatt del som brukes mye, men er greit å vite at det ikke er noe unormal bytte av disse som VAG har hatt på mange av bilene sine.. Har vært inne på den tråden og lest igjennom..
CrZyWiz Skrevet November 24, 2012 Skrevet November 24, 2012 Fordelen er at du kan bytte lenkearmene med 2 fastnøkler på E9X Ergo, billig og kjapt gjort.
quandt1960 Skrevet Desember 10, 2012 Skrevet Desember 10, 2012 Da har jeg satt meg litt ned og prøvd å finne ut litt på nettet og det ser ut til at det faktisk er store "skjulte" problemer med N47 motoren dessverre. Det står på utallige internasjonale forumer at det er problemer med registerkjedet til N47 motoren. Alle modeller er betruffet fra 2007-2011I verste fall må en bytte kamaksling og kjede + litt til og det blir jævlig dyrt siden kjedet sitter innerst mot kupe og motoren må ut. Noe mer vet jeg ikke per nå og jeg skal snakke med BMW ila dagen. Utdrag fra en av sakene til BMW Puma feildatabasen: PUMA 13588845-03 incidence recorded by BMW and its repair Diligence-number Item 43863106-03 N47, N47S, N47T, rustling sound in the engine, timing chain rubs. Approval date (day.month.year) Status Organization Approved 14.12.11 Germany, automobiles Vehicles affected E Series Motor Body E60 E61 E81 E82 E83 N47 N47DKO N47S N47T E61 E60 E81 E82 E83 N47 N47S N47T N47DKO E84 E87 E88 E90 E91 E87 E84 E88 E90 E91 E92 E93 F10 F11 F25 E93 E92 F10 F11 F25 Feedback Comment production interval Feedback (From / to) on the production interval diligence (day.month.year) to (day.month.year) / 01.03.11 / 01.03.11 Complaint Sound of friction drag on the engine from about 1500 rpm, which is visible from the inside. The noise can be perceived in area of the gearbox housing and the oil pan. Cause Excessively sharp edges on the sprockets, the chain does not flow evenly over the guides. Measures We must distinguish two cases: Case 1: For engines N47, N47DKO, N47S, interval from 01.03.2007 to production 05.01.2009. In case of customer complaint must change the following parts: (See Annexes, Figures 1 to 7.) - Nov. 21 7803479 Sutitución the crankshaft bearings. Caution: Use only crankshafts with a production date back to 5. 1. 1. 2009 2009 The production date is printed on crankshaft sprocket (see page 2 of the Annex) Meaning of the figures: The first two indicate the assembly line. The 6 following year (two digits), month, day. Last 5 indicate the reference number of the crankshaft. Thus, the crankshaft shown on page 2 of the annex was built on October 21, 2009. 41 -11 7,797,896 chain oil pump. 11 31 8 506 652 Timing Chain bottom. 13 52 7 797 906 sprocket for driving the high pressure pump. 11 27 7 800 523 sprocket (intermediate for balance shafts). 11 8,510,014 31 Supply Chain superior. -11 7,797,899 31 Timing Chain Guide above. -13 7,797,904 52 Timing Chain Guide below. Note: Adjusting the intermediate gear shafts accurately balanced according to workshop manual. In case this intermediate sprocket and the balance shafts are not sufficiently fit, the motor can still giving rise to noise despite the new crankshaft. See November 21 workshop manual 500 "crankshaft replacement." Note: In the case of vehicles to which a previous repair and they replaced the crankshaft: Proceed with these vehicles as detailed in "Case 2". Case 2: N47 engine, N47DKO, N47S, N47T production interval 05.01.2009 - 01.03.2011 In case of customer complaint replace the following parts: (See Appendix, Art 8 to 10) -11 8,506,652 31 Supply Chain bottom. - 13 52 7 797 906 sprocket high pressure pump. - 11 31 8 510 014 Supply Chain superior. -11 7,797,899 31 Timing Chain Guide above. -13 7,797,904 52 Timing Chain Guide below. Note: There is no need to release the binding thread of the intermediate toothed wheel balancer shafts. Note: As of March 2011 there are new guidelines. These guidelines do not bring reinforcing ribs. (See Appendix, pp. 7 and 10.) In this way the inner surface of the guides is smooth throughout its length and the timing chain runs easily on them. They have not changed the references. Note: During the repair make sure guides are mounted without lateral veins (in the Annex, Art 7 and 10.) Attention: No repairs are allowed in vehicles with production date after 03/2011 and vehicles in which all existing measures have already been made. The sound now is the moment, the normal state of this world! No risk of broken chain! Not allowed engine change because of this claim! Claim Location of the defect: Defect Type: Circumstances of default: Guide part incorrect Crank Noise Wheel motor Distribution Worn crankshaft Wheel motor Distribution Motor Noise Motor Power Du har gjort litt researcch, takk for god hjelp, har ikke bestemt meg ennå er ikke noe hast ennå, men N47 er det diesel eller bensin? Ja det er dieselmotoren i dette tilfellet
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